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Sorry fur english, ich kan deutsch (ein bischen) lesen aber nicht schreiben.


Well, what is this ‘Photo-card’ thing really about. Many questions and answers on this issue. But it remains confusing and apparently I have played this wrongly as well. I must add that I have the german rules only. This is the most ‘vague’ rule of the game (the rest is quite easy to understand). This is what I am reading with my obvious questions:


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Photo’s (1 per outlaw):

A)The 7 pictures are special sheriff cards because they belong to one specific outlaw. As it is a sheriff card the basic rule of one sheriff card per turn remains and you can only play in your turn a sheriff card if a set of outlaw cards (minimum 3 cards) was already played.
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B)Now comes the weird sentence:
When a player had not yet played a set of outlaw cards of a certain color, he can play the Photo card as a single card and lay it in front of him. In a turn you may play any other sheriff cards and place this on top of your photo-card (which are also placed with outlaw cards).
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C)A photo card may not be played as part of a set, but may be played as a additional card.

D)Example1:
Bert plays a set of Billy the Kid cards: 4 outlaw cards and 1 photo card (so, photo card played as additional card). The reward is 4000$ (3000$ for the Set and 1000$ for the photo card).
E) Example 2 (the weird example)
A ‘Billy the Kid’ set was already played. Curt places the Photo card and increases the reward with 1000$. In his next turn he playes the card ‘Bank Robbery’. This way the reward is increased with 1000$.

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Interpreting B) and E)
Where I have questions, it is marked as a (Q)

When it IS your turn:
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1. If you play, or have played before, a set (of 3) outlaw cards, you can play the photo card as an additional card with that set.
2. You can add sherif cards to a previously played photo card (not simultaneously as you may only play one sheriff card).
3. Q: You drew a photo card, but you do not have that set, someone else has played already that set before. Can you play this photo card as a single card? It reads this way in example 2.
4. Q: (But I guess the answer is already a NO). In relation to 3. Nobody has yet played a set of an outlaw I have a Photo card of. Can I play the single photo card during my turn and in next turn increase the value with sheriff cards?
5. Q: A while ago, you have played a single photo card (in a turn or outside your turn) and you are drawing outlaw cards. Can I place, when I have fewer that 3 cards, these outlaw cards with the corresponding photo card? When I have 3 or more corresponding outlaw cards, can I place them as a set on top of the played photo card? (The latter is the vice versa of the normal situation. I can only play in a turn a photo card if the set was played, but do I need to play a set if a photo card was placed).
6. Q: In relation with previous questions. I have played a photo card before (in or outside my turn). I play a set of outlaw cards corresponding to the same color as the photo card. Do I place this as a separate display? (so not part of the previously played photo). It may make sense if unterslupf (hide) cards played by someone else can only then cover 1 of the 2 displays.


When it is NOT my turn (in all cases I have a photo card in hand that corresponds to a set played by somebody else of the same color outlaw.).
7. Q: Somebody plays a set of an outlaw. I can play inmediately my photo card?(helps to stay in the boundary of 4 points). This action I can assume from Example 2 because it talks about a “played set” and placing the photo card, but only talking about a ‘next’ turn. The variant rules mention this could be done, but is or is not an interpretation of the Example2.



Kann jemand mir hilfen mit diese regel

On http://www.aleaspiele.de/Pages/B1/ you can find the translation of the rules into Dutch (assuming you're Dutch because of your e-mail adress). If you only have the German rules, this might help you. As I don't have the game myself I can't give you a more detailed answer, sorry.

Polgara

I don't have the rules in front of me, but IIRC...

It sounds like you think each player must start a set when playing outlaw cards. But everybody can play outlaw cards for an outlaw, once one player has played a set for this outlaw. And everbody can play the corresponding photo card too in this case, no matter if he has a set. In addition, photo cards, like outlaw cards, are only played in your own turn.

Eric Klaver schrieb:

> 1. If you play, or have played before, a set (of 3) outlaw
> cards, you can play the photo card as an additional card with
> that set.
> 2. You can add sherif cards to a previously played photo card
> (not simultaneously as you may only play one sheriff card).
> 3. Q: You drew a photo card, but you do not have that set,
> someone else has played already that set before. Can you play
> this photo card as a single card? It reads this way in
> example 2.

That´s exactly how it is! (See also below)

> 4. Q: (But I guess the answer is already a NO). In relation
> to 3. Nobody has yet played a set of an outlaw I have a Photo
> card of. Can I play the single photo card during my turn and
> in next turn increase the value with sheriff cards?

Never! As written (pretty clear) in the rules you can play a photo card only if [i]somewhere[/i] is already a set of this outlaw on the table.

> 5. Q: A while ago, you have played a single photo card (in a
> turn or outside your turn)

You cannot play a photo card "outside" your turn! (This is based obviously on an "inofficial" rule, floating around in the net)

> and you are drawing outlaw cards.
> Can I place, when I have fewer that 3 cards, these outlaw
> cards with the corresponding photo card?

Of course. Why not?

> When I have 3 or more corresponding outlaw cards, can I place them as a set on
> top of the played photo card? (The latter is the vice versa
> of the normal situation. I can only play in a turn a photo
> card if the set was played, but do I need to play a set if a
> photo card was placed).

You can always play a set of outlaws ... It doesn´t matter whether you have a photo or not in such a situation.

> 6. Q: In relation with previous questions. I have played a
> photo card before (in or outside my turn).

see above!I

> play a set of outlaw cards corresponding to the same color as the photo card. Do I place this as a separate display?

You never have - again as written in the rules! - more than [i]one[/i] display per outlaw!!

> (so not part of the previously played photo). It may make sense if unterslupf
> (hide) cards played by someone else can only then cover 1 of
> the 2 displays.
>
> 7. Q: Somebody plays a set of an outlaw. I can play
> inmediately my photo card?(helps to stay in the boundary of 4
> points). This action I can assume from Example 2 because it
> talks about a “played set” and placing the photo card, but
> only talking about a ‘next’ turn. The variant rules mention
> this could be done, but is or is not an interpretation of the
> Example2.

See above: the "photo out of a turn" rule is an inofficial one, which we kept out of the rules because of its complexity (and it seems that it was a clever decision so far ... ;o)

Example 2 just explains that you [i]can[/i] display a single photo card [i]as long as somebody [/i] has displayed already a set of this outlaws!
The reason for this is to explain that it is possible (and senseful) to play a single photo card of an outlaw (which is unusual according to the other sheriff cards, which you [i]cannot[/i] play without attaching them to an outlaw ...).

> Kann jemand mir hilfen mit diese regel

Hope i did.

Best regards.
Stefan

Thanksa lot , at least this is very clearly answered.